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Kramer's South End Grocery Slated to Close After 95 Years

Family Owned Neighborhood Grocery Yields To Changing Times

August 28, 2019       Leave a Comment
By: Lynn Naylor

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A business that started with $20.00 and a handshake will close its door on September 14th. Kramer's South End Grocery will close after being in business for 95 ½ years.

Art Kramer opened the store in March of 1924. Kramer was a candy salesman who was tired of delivering candy in all types of weather saw the building for sale at 422 Ingraham Street in Bay City's South End, and the rest is history.

When you walk through the aisles of the store you can see family photos lining some of the shelves depicting the history of the Kramer family. The business has remained a family affair since its inception. During the depression Kramer would exchange his store's goods for work needed around the store and at his home. Kramer even had his basement dug by a customer doing business at the store.

During the store's hay day you could find anything from groceries to car parts and rugs. Of course the main thrust of the business is their meat department where meat is cut to order and you can find smoked meats, fish and homemade sausage.

When Art Kramer was ready to retire from the business in 1970 his Son Lloyd Kramer and Brother-in-law Tony Neering took over the day-to-day operation. The Kramer family always had members of their immediate family working in the store. When Lloyd's Son Larry was old enough he started working for his Dad.

"As soon as we could tell one pop bottle from the next we started working," Kramer said. "At that time we stored pop in wooden crates."

In February after the death of their Father Lloyd the third generation of Kramer's took over running the store. Larry Kramer and his Brothers Scott and Brian will be the final generation to run the family business, although you can find a fourth generation in the store where Larry's nine-year-old Grandson Brayden Schmidt is following in his Grandfather's footsteps.

This is a neighborhood store so when the neighborhood demographic changes the business changes.

"Older people cook, young people don't cook" Larry Kramer said. "The older people are gone and the young people want to shop at the big box stores where they can buy a pound of hamburger and a pair of jeans."

"Twenty years ago our customers would buy 50 pounds of potatoes at a time," Kramer said. "Now customers want us to open up a 50 pound bag so they can buy 2 potatoes."

Today only about 30 percent of family-owned businesses survive into the second generation according to the Family Business institute. There are only twelve percent by the third generation and only about three percent of all family businesses are viable into the fourth generation and beyond.

"In a business like this you don't have the business the business has you," Kramer said. "Everything is your responsibility from the coolers to making sure there is enough wood for the furnace so the pipes don't freeze."

As far as how the business closing will affect him Lloyd says it will allow more time with his grandkids and maybe catching up on some yard work.

The family isn't going to sell the building due to its age and the cost to upgrade it. The Kramer's are currently working out the details for taking bi-monthly orders on certain items; customers who are interested can sign up inside the store.

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Lynn Naylor

Lynn Naylor is native of Bay City and holds a Bachelor's degree in Journalism from Central Michigan University. She enjoys writing and is currently working on a children's story and an adult romance

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P3_LogThesePubs (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=6) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT *
	FROM P3_tPublications
	ORDER BY PUB_PublicationID
P3_Test30dayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
		WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
		  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Frankenmuth'
		  and tLOG_Date = '2021-09-17'
P3_Pub30DayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=16ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
			WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
			  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Frankenmuth'
			  and tLOG_Date >= '2021-08-17'
P3_Test30dayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
		WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
		  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Freeland'
		  and tLOG_Date = '2021-09-17'
P3_Pub30DayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
			WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
			  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Freeland'
			  and tLOG_Date >= '2021-08-17'
P3_Test30dayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
		WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
		  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Gower'
		  and tLOG_Date = '2021-09-17'
P3_Pub30DayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
			WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
			  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Gower'
			  and tLOG_Date >= '2021-08-17'
P3_Test30dayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
		WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
		  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'MBC'
		  and tLOG_Date = '2021-09-17'
P3_Pub30DayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=16ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
			WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
			  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'MBC'
			  and tLOG_Date >= '2021-08-17'
P3_Test30dayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
		WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
		  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'MTCN'
		  and tLOG_Date = '2021-09-17'
P3_Pub30DayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
			WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
			  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'MTCN'
			  and tLOG_Date >= '2021-08-17'
P3_Test30dayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
		WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
		  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Pinconning'
		  and tLOG_Date = '2021-09-17'
P3_Pub30DayLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox2.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT * FROM P3_tLog
			WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
			  and tLOG_PublicationID = 'Pinconning'
			  and tLOG_Date >= '2021-08-17'
P3_PubCurrentLog (Datasource=MyBayCity, Time=0ms, Records=0) in D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\Scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-LogBox.cfm @ 08:45:46.046
SELECT *
	FROM P3_tLog
	WHERE tLOG_RecordType = 'P'
	  and tLOG_Date = '2021-09-17'


Scope Variables

CGI Variables:
AUTH_PASSWORD=
AUTH_TYPE=
AUTH_USER=
CERT_COOKIE=
CERT_FLAGS=
CERT_ISSUER=
CERT_KEYSIZE=
CERT_SECRETKEYSIZE=
CERT_SERIALNUMBER=
CERT_SERVER_ISSUER=
CERT_SERVER_SUBJECT=
CERT_SUBJECT=
CF_TEMPLATE_PATH=D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-0200.cfm
CONTENT_LENGTH=0
CONTENT_TYPE=
CONTEXT_PATH=
GATEWAY_INTERFACE=CGI/1.1
HTTPS=off
HTTPS_KEYSIZE=
HTTPS_SECRETKEYSIZE=
HTTPS_SERVER_ISSUER=
HTTPS_SERVER_SUBJECT=
HTTP_ACCEPT=text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING=br,gzip
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE=en-US,en;q=0.5
HTTP_CONNECTION=Keep-Alive
HTTP_COOKIE=
HTTP_HOST=mybaycity.com
HTTP_REFERER=
HTTP_URL=/scripts/P3_V2/P3V3-0200.cfm?P3_NewspaperID=1561&P3_articleID=11574
HTTP_USER_AGENT=CCBot/2.0 (https://commoncrawl.org/faq/)
LOCAL_ADDR=192.168.162.152
PATH_INFO=
PATH_TRANSLATED=D:\Websites\bcra-mlscom\mybaycity.com\scripts\P3_V2\P3V3-0200.cfm
QUERY_STRING=P3_NewspaperID=1561&P3_articleID=11574
REMOTE_ADDR=35.172.203.87
REMOTE_HOST=35.172.203.87
REMOTE_USER=
REQUEST_METHOD=GET
SCRIPT_NAME=/scripts/P3_V2/P3V3-0200.cfm
SERVER_NAME=mybaycity.com
SERVER_PORT=80
SERVER_PORT_SECURE=0
SERVER_PROTOCOL=HTTP/1.1
SERVER_SOFTWARE=Microsoft-IIS/10.0
WEB_SERVER_API=
Cookie Variables:
CFID=7523387
CFTOKEN=a7b06ae350c92f73-B95F1607-0CD6-1E5D-75FCC14BD7FBFF18
Session Variables:
authortype=unknown
cfid=7523387
cftoken=a7b06ae350c92f73-B95F1607-0CD6-1E5D-75FCC14BD7FBFF18
login_role=x
login_status=firsttime
login_type=reader
login_userid=Default
loginid=Default
p3_priornewspaperdate=2012-11-18 00:00:00.0
p3_priornewspaperid=1560
p3v2_home=mybaycity.com
p3v2_privdiag=0
p3v2_publication=mbC
sessionid=P3V2SYS_7523387_a7b06ae350c92f73-B95F1607-0CD6-1E5D-75FCC14BD7FBFF18
urltoken=CFID=7523387&CFTOKEN=a7b06ae350c92f73-B95F1607-0CD6-1E5D-75FCC14BD7FBFF18
URL Parameters:
P3_NewspaperID=1561
P3_articleID=11574
Debug Rendering Time: 32 ms